DT: Yeah, that's very interesting, and that absolutely underlines that we as a… well…as a world, are not doing enough on this topic. Do you think that having this certification will present you a competitive advantage as well as a sort of moral and ethical one?
IG: Definitely. You know, climate change - it is a challenge that embraces everything we do. We are an architecture practice, but it is not only what an architect can do but as a society as a whole. For us, it is not only about being competitive in the environment – of course it will make us more competitive and really have some advantages – but I think it's about playing that part in tackling climate change and having that holistic vision and having that holistic approach. So this certification is actually part of our own ongoing journey of excellent climate action and advanced technology and pushing environmental boundaries of building and everything we do basically as a practice. We also need others to take similar action. Of course it gives us advantage, but also, it is the start of our journey. At the same time we want to be part of this movement of accelerating climate action
DT: Yeah. Final question: will you be going up to see any of your planting up in the Lake District? Is that part of the agenda?
GI: Yes. After the lockdown; we were planning a trip. We talked about it, and definitely we would love to go and see it.
DT: And how will you travel there? By train, I'm presuming…
GI: (laughs) Perhaps, yeah! We’ll find a less polluted way…
DT: Maybe cycle?
GI: Yeah, cycle! Why not? We have a lot of cyclists in the practice. Many of our employees are really forward in that. So perhaps. That's a good idea! (laughs)
DT: Let's do it! Okay, lovely to speak to you and thank you very much for outlining it all.
GI: Thank you so much, David. Bye!