DT: How do you fit it all in? (laughs)
HM: (laughs) With difficulty. I care about it, and therefore I don't really see it as work. And the more you do these things that you're passionate about, the more your living and work day actually starts changing and wrapping around it. It's a lot of hard work, obviously, but I also think it’s also about being passionate and dedicated to something.
DT: Well, good for you. Good for you. One last question, then. What would your message be to people who read this? People from the built environment professions – what can they do to help?
HM: The issue of homelessness?
DT: Well, this campaign, and the broader issue.
HM: I think the broader issue is probably just to be interested. To address the issue, obviously it has to be housing first as step one. We’re addressing emergency accommodation in the hope that eventually emergency accommodation doesn't need to exist because there is enough housing for everybody. So, looking at it holistically I'd say it's doing everything you can to work in a way that helps address the housing issue in the city and in a wider context.
But in an obviously immediate sense there is a need for this, and therefore I think anything anyone can do to embed even in a very small scale, elements of spatial initiatives within their schemes and looking for opportunities almost entrepreneurially is one way of immediately addressing it. I have a few projects which are looking opportunistically at empty buildings in London to see if there's a possibility to align offer and need. But also, I think just talk to people, get engaged, research the subject. Try not to look at it at a high level, and try not to categorise what is a human being in terms of people that have been or about to be or are homeless, into one category. And start to look at it more holistically as people rather than…um..
DT: …A problem?
HM: …rather than, yes, a problem; perfect, yes.
DT: Well, thank you and good luck with it. It sounds like a great initiative. Thanks for your time.