Peter Murray sits down with Holly Lewis, Co-founder of We Made That, an architecture and urbanism practice with a strong public conscience. She tells Peter about her work on industrial intensification and co-location which focuses on how we can get more out of London's industrial land, moving buildings and floor space, or mixing industrial and residential users. 

Conversation moves on to Holly's work with Margate and their town development plan that focuses on accommodating spare high-street spaces to fulfil creative endeavours through the Creative Land Trust. More generally, Holly is optimistic about the future of high streets, citing past struggles as an example of their incredible resilience. She tells Peter Murray that there is something about lots of small units next to each other. 

Holly ends with a warning about Permitted Development, that allow retail units to be converted to residential without planning permission, could be the death warrant for high streets.